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GAP · « **on:** January 10, 2012, 18:20:58 »

Military gear missing from Afghan mission shipments
Containers filled with rocks, sand, sources tell CBC News
CBC News Posted: Jan 10, 2012
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The Canadian Forces have experienced serious security breaches with military equipment being shipped back from Afghanistan, CBC News has learned.

Sources told Power & Politics host Evan Solomon on Tuesday that equipment was missing when military shipping containers arriving from Afghanistan were opened in Canada.

The sources said that rather than containing the expected military equipment, the containers were filled with rocks and sand, presumably to mimic the weight of the missing supplies so the breach would go undetected.

The Department of National Defence confirmed Tuesday that various military hardware and gear was missing from containers being transported to Canada from Afghanistan by chartered sea vessel, and said a full investigation is underway.

A Defence spokesperson told CBC News in a statement the missing equipment is "non-critical."

"There were no munitions of any kind in any of the containers being shipped back to Canada by sea on this route. All munitions have already been received in Canada via strategic air and sealift," Lt.-Cmdr. John Nethercott said.
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ArmyVern · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2012, 18:30:33 »

We were extremely careful in ensuring that we did not ship anything CTAT/ITAR via GLOC or anything else that we'd want to fall into enemy hands either --- we did know the route our stuff was taking.

NFLD Sapper · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2012, 18:54:56 »

So in other words your BBQ and pool went missing

Macey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2012, 20:46:15 »

Quote from: NFLD Sapper on January 10, 2012, 18:54:56

So in other words your BBQ and pool went missing

NOT THE POOL!!!

ArmyVern · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2012, 21:14:07 »

Quote from: NFLD Sapper on January 10, 2012, 18:54:56

So in other words your BBQ and pool went missing

Close: Shampoo, razors.

mad dog 2020 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2012, 22:16:35 »

Like this is a new story, when I was a young soldier in Lahr, I was told about when we moved down from up-north.
There was a top notch auto/racing club with a full stocked garage. When they packed all the tools and machines the forklift was labored to load the tri-walls onto the trucks.
When they unloaded in Lahr the forklifts rear wheels lifted with the weight, and when they opened the box it was not wrenches nor expensive tools, no like Charlie Brown they got rocks.
This was 1970ish.
When you hire out stuff there are no guarantees, that's why we have insurance. So much for bonded carriers.
Media hype,

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2012, 10:47:48 »

Quote from: ArmyVern on January 10, 2012, 21:14:07

Close: Shampoo, razors.

From what I saw/smelled of suspected Taliban, they would not know what to do with these items. Smelly bastards...

Macey · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2012, 11:40:51 »

Now I can picture the Taliban doing a Herbal Essences commercial. Bunch of moaning in the caves...

In Pashto "Hoooo Hoooo! Hoooo! Da ajeeba dai!

Colin P · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2012, 11:54:46 »

However now Health Canada & Environment Canada will fine DND for importing contaminated soil and rocks without a permit and not properly cleaning them beforehand and DND will have to dispose of the rocks in soil after spend 3/4 of a million dollars decontaminating them.

PMedMoe · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2012, 12:33:31 »

Quote from: Colin P on January 11, 2012, 11:54:46

However now Health Canada & Environment Canada will fine DND for importing contaminated soil and rocks without a permit and not properly cleaning them beforehand and DND will have to dispose of the rocks in soil after spend 3/4 of a million dollars decontaminating them.

Or certain units could paint the rocks.......

CDN Aviator · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2012, 17:17:57 »

The media is making such a huge deal of this and the comments on the CBC website are to die for.......doesn't take much to knock Canadians out of the "support the troops" mindset...........

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #11 on:** January 11, 2012, 17:34:41 »

Quote from: CDN Aviator on January 11, 2012, 17:17:57

doesn't take much to knock Canadians out of the "support the troops" mindset...........

You could see that already progressing nicely as last year wore on and we were busy closing up shop down south. I am sure it will be "no dogs and serviceman allowed" once again in the not too far distant future.

milnews.ca · « **Reply #12 on:** January 11, 2012, 22:08:43 »

Quote from: CDN Aviator on January 11, 2012, 17:17:57

.... the comments on the CBC website are to die for ....

Same level of analysis, with some interestingly detailed accounts shared with the CBC via comments here.

Hurricane · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2012, 00:16:40 »

I like how every one of the commentors has a solution.......maybe they should send a letter to the CDS and tell him how to run his military.

ArmyVern · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2012, 03:08:25 »

Oh look at this commentary ...

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wascally wabbit
2012/01/11
at 5:42 PM ET

Quartermaster-sergeants in Caesar's legions were pulling the same stunts...in 2,000 years nothing has changed, no will it...
wabbit

I do believe this wascally wabbit has all-but just accused me of being the culprit behind "this stunt".

I can assure you all right now that my personnel did not work their collective asses off for 9 months identifying, barcoding, stocktaking, cleaning, counting, packaging, paperworking, loading, sealing and shipping everything we had over there ... just to have me personally sabotage their excellent work by pulling "a stunt" like this.

Perhaps I should sue.

Scott · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2012, 04:33:18 »

Quote from: ArmyVern on January 12, 2012, 03:08:25

Oh look at this commentary ...

I do believe this wascally wabbit has all-but just accused me of being the culprit behind "this stunt".

I can assure you all right now that my personnel did not work their collective asses off for 9 months identifying, barcoding, stocktaking, cleaning, counting, packaging, paperworking, loading, sealing and shipping everything we had over there ... just to have me personally sabotage their excellent work by pulling "a stunt" like this.

Perhaps I should sue.

It is the CBC comments section...

Really, a story about comments?

Maybe I'm just crusty because of my dearly departed Legends...

Haggis · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2012, 08:30:27 »

Quote from: ArmyVern on January 12, 2012, 03:08:25

Perhaps I should sue.

Go ahead, Vern. Sue the CBC. Good luck with your ATI request to them for documents backing up your claim.

Oh, wait, it's the CBC you're dealing with. You don't have to prove anything - just like them.

Jim Seggie · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2012, 09:07:12 »

CBC - and the typical following of the CBC is the left wing loonie "no war at all ever despite the oppression others suffer" crowd who love to post anti-authority garbage.

Some times you want to beat the snot out of them.

E.R. Campbell · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2012, 10:39:37 »

Quote from: jollyjacktar on January 11, 2012, 17:34:41

You could see that already progressing nicely as last year wore on and we were busy closing up shop down south. I am sure it will be "no dogs and serviceman allowed" once again in the not too far distant future.

At the risk of being seen to be patting my own back, I have been saying for, literally, years, that despite all the red T-shirts, yellow ribbons and "support the troops" rallies the support amongst our fellow citizens may be a mile wide but it is less than an inch deep. We rank right down there with symphony orchestras and ballet companies in the public's esteem. There is a real 1% in Canada: those who support more money for symphony orchestras, opera houses and the CF.

Journeyman · « **Reply #19 on:** January 12, 2012, 10:54:15 »

Quote from: E.R. Campbell on January 12, 2012, 10:39:37

...the support amongst our fellow citizens may be a mile wide but it is less than an inch deep.

What gave it away for me was when Rosie Dimanno started writing nice things about the military for a change -- that told me that it was a "trendy" thing, rather than being particularly heart-felt.

Oldgateboatdriver · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2012, 11:57:43 »

Quote from: E.R. Campbell on January 12, 2012, 10:39:37

At the risk of being seen to be patting my own back, I have been saying for, literally, years, that despite all the red T-shirts, yellow ribbons and "support the troops" rallies the support amongst our fellow citizens may be a kilometer wide but it is less than a centimeter deep. We rank right down there with symphony orchestras and ballet companies in the public's esteem. There is a real 1% in Canada: those who support more money for symphony orchestras, opera houses and the CF.

There, corrected that for you

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And ArmyVern: Do not worry - Wascally Wabbit is so out to lunch, he (she?) failed to notice that Caesar's legions never, ever employed a single sergeant.

dapaterson · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2012, 12:11:10 »

Quote from: Oldgateboatdriver on January 12, 2012, 11:57:43

There, corrected that for you .

Well, as long as we're being pedantic, Canadian spelling is metre, not meter.

Haggis · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2012, 13:51:07 »

Quote from: Oldgateboatdriver on January 12, 2012, 11:57:43

Caesar's legions never, ever employed a single sergeant.

Then who taught your BMQ?? (ducks)

Oldgateboatdriver · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2012, 14:14:39 »

Well, I was taught by the Decurio Nave, under our CO, the Magister Nave, of course

NFLD Sapper · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2012, 18:59:51 »

I thought Biggus Dickus trained ya.......

Jim Seggie · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2012, 20:08:51 »

Quote from: NFLD Sapper on January 13, 2012, 18:59:51

I thought Biggus Dickus trained ya.......

No that was Naughtious Maximus!

Besides its pronounced Bigguth Dickuth

Flow him woughwy to the fwor....

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2012, 23:03:55 »

you forgot to start it with "Thenchurian"

Jim Seggie · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2012, 23:48:09 »

My apowogies. .....

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2012, 09:19:08 »

wascally wabbit.

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