Author Topic: Bedford man faces espionage charges (Read 16203 times)

ObedientiaZelum · « **Reply #125 on:** January 24, 2012, 18:43:02 »

Quote from: ltmaverick25 on January 24, 2012, 11:29:41

When someone declares bankrupcy, all their debt is erased for the most part, therefore solving the issues.

Not exactly. Depending on your surplus you still need to pay certain things. For example a friend of mine declared bankruptcy and thought he'd be scott free. He still needed to pay $900 to whatever.

Occam · « **Reply #126 on:** January 24, 2012, 19:03:52 »

Quote from: Grimaldus on January 24, 2012, 18:43:02

Not exactly. Depending on your surplus you still need to pay certain things. For example a friend of mine declared bankruptcy and thought he'd be scott free. He still needed to pay $900 to whatever.

I think that's why ltmaverick25 said "for the most part".

Between filing and discharge of the bankruptcy, if you have surplus income (income above a certain level), you pay the trustee a monthly amount which goes to the creditors.

milnews.ca · « **Reply #127 on:** January 25, 2012, 07:19:39 »

Must be the Russian posting season.....

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Another Russian diplomat, a defence attaché with the rank of colonel, is leaving Canada in a departure that his embassy says is a routine posting change – one under way in the midst of a spy scandal that’s rocked the Canadian military.

Colonel Sergey Zhukov, the defence attaché for the Russian government in Ottawa, has been accredited as a foreign representative with the embassy in Canada for years.

A Russian embassy official described the move back to Moscow as a “normal rotation” and referred further questions to Canada’s Department of Foreign Affairs ....

Globe & Mail, 25 Jan 12

George Wallace · « **Reply #128 on:** January 25, 2012, 07:56:29 »

Quote from: milnews.ca on January 25, 2012, 07:19:39

Must be the Russian posting season.....Globe & Mail, 25 Jan 12

Now, if this were the Stalin Years, it could mean a posting to a location in a very frigid Gulag....... or perhaps an early death by "heart attack"....... or perhaps a fall from a sixth floor window.

Journeyman · « **Reply #129 on:** January 25, 2012, 10:40:00 »

Pretty prominent name; I wonder if he's related to Georgy Konstantinovich?

ObedientiaZelum · « **Reply #130 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:18:20 »

Quote from: Occam on January 24, 2012, 19:03:52

I think that's why ltmaverick25 said "for the most part".

Ahh, just seemed like he made it sound like a get out of jail free card.

I'm not that upset by the whole thing. We do it to them they do it to us. I'm out of my lane obviously but it seems like a big game. He was stupid and got caught so hammer him with the maximum punishment, set something up to protect his kids and wife from reprisals and reissue his kit to new recruits.

Nemo888 · « **Reply #131 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:28:30 »

Burn his kit. I wouldn't want it. It's got traitor cooties. Bad enough we reuse weapons from soldiers who died in battle. This is worse.

George Wallace · « **Reply #132 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:31:05 »

So Nemo888, even without a fair trial, you are declaring him guilty.

Should you be charged someday, shall we all automatically deem you guilty and have cooties?

George Wallace · « **Reply #133 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:35:55 »

Quote from: Grimaldus on January 25, 2012, 12:18:20

Ahh, just seemed like he made it sound like a get out of jail free card.

That is a good point: CLARITY

If a person is communicating, especially in some jobs, particularly in the CF, lack of clarity could cause the loss of lives.

milnews.ca · « **Reply #134 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:48:34 »

Quote from: Nemo888 on January 25, 2012, 12:28:30

Burn his kit. I wouldn't want it. It's got traitor cooties. Bad enough we reuse weapons from soldiers who died in battle. This is worse.

A reminder: The Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and Canada's constitution, guarantees the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

ObedientiaZelum · « **Reply #135 on:** January 25, 2012, 12:58:37 »

Quote from: Nemo888 on January 25, 2012, 12:28:30

Bad enough we reuse weapons from soldiers who died in battle. This is worse.

While recycling this navy dudes underwear may be different (if found guilty of course) I can't think of a higher honour than carrying the weapon of a fallen brother or sister into battle.

milnews.ca · « **Reply #136 on:** February 10, 2012, 07:22:25 »

The latest from the Russian Ambassador: Wait for it....

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Russian Ambassador Georgiy Mamedov says Moscow has a deal with the Canadian government to "keep quiet" about his country's involvement in the case of a naval intelligence officer accused of spying. Sub-Lt. Jeffrey Delisle is in custody on charges of passing secret military information to a foreign entity. CTV has reported Delisle passed on secrets to the Russians and Canada retaliated by expelling several Russian diplomats. "I have a deal with your people to keep quiet," Mamedov told CTV during a brief conversation at a Russian embassy event. "But after this seal of silence is lifted, I will tell you and you will be very red-faced." Asked directly if Delisle was spying for the Russians, Mamedov said: "I don't know because I am not the guy who controls Humint (human intelligence). But I can tell you what you said about some people in my embassy are dead wrong." CTV reported that six Russian diplomats have left Canada since Delisle was arrested in mid-January, including two military attachés. Sources say some of those diplomats were asked to leave as a result of the spy scandal. Mamedov declined to say which of the six Russians were asked to leave by the Canadian government. "I am not at liberty to discuss because I don't want to influence your judicial process," he said ....

CTV.ca, 9 Feb 12

Colin P · « **Reply #137 on:** February 10, 2012, 15:26:03 »

If all found to be true, money might not have been the only motivator, perhaps love (or assumed love) or blackmail. Know the Russians it could have been a mix of all 3. It might have also been a "god complex" where the spy is groomed into the role by careful stroking their ego and addicted to the thrill of breaking all the rules without being caught.

ObedientiaZelum · « **Reply #138 on:** February 11, 2012, 10:22:44 »

You figure being a spy pays more than $4923 a month?

Brihard · « **Reply #139 on:** February 11, 2012, 10:40:34 »

Is it wrong that I was amused to see his job up on REO two days after this broke?

ObedientiaZelum · « **Reply #140 on:** February 11, 2012, 10:52:43 »

Quote from: Brihard on February 11, 2012, 10:40:34

Is it wrong that I was amused to see his job up on REO two days after this broke?

Thought I seen that too. That's pretty funny actually.

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #141 on:** February 11, 2012, 12:50:04 »

CDN Aviator · « **Reply #142 on:** February 11, 2012, 12:56:39 »

Reserve Employment Oportunity

cupper · « **Reply #143 on:** February 11, 2012, 13:05:50 »

Quote from: Brihard on February 11, 2012, 10:40:34

Is it wrong that I was amused to see his job up on REO two days after this broke?

Not a job you'd want to be too eager to apply for, lest it draw suspicion.

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #144 on:** February 11, 2012, 13:25:03 »

Quote from: CDN Aviator on February 11, 2012, 12:56:39

Reserve Employment Oportunity

Hmm, but he was not a Shad?

Spectrum · « **Reply #145 on:** February 11, 2012, 13:27:13 »

Maybe they were just going to backfill it for a while until they could post in a RegF?

...or maybe they figured the new person would find a way to add the other 15% to their salary

jollyjacktar · « **Reply #146 on:** February 11, 2012, 13:28:08 »

Quote from: Spectrum on February 11, 2012, 13:27:13

...or maybe they figured the new person would find a way to add the other 15% to their salary

Ouch

Brihard · « **Reply #147 on:** February 11, 2012, 13:31:54 »

Quote from: Spectrum on February 11, 2012, 13:27:13

...or maybe they figured the new person would find a way to add the other 15% to their salary

Zing!

milnews.ca · « **Reply #148 on:** February 28, 2012, 07:19:56 »

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The case of a Canadian navy intelligence officer accused of passing information to a foreign entity is scheduled to resume today.

Sub.-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle faces two charges of violating the Security of Information Act that deal with communicating information that could harm national interests.

Court documents say one of the alleged offences happened between July 6, 2007, and Jan. 13, 2012, while the other offence is alleged to have happened between Jan. 10 and Jan. 13 of this year.

The Halifax man also faces a breach of trust charge under the Criminal Code that is alleged to have happened between July 6, 2007, and Jan. 13, 2012.

All the offences are alleged to have happened in or near Halifax, Ottawa and Kingston, Ont.

Delisle's case is due in Halifax provincial court, where a bail hearing date is expected to be set ....

The Canadian Press, 28 Feb 12

milnews.ca · « **Reply #149 on:** March 13, 2012, 22:34:30 »

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A Canadian navy intelligence officer charged with passing classified information to a foreign entity has been given an earlier date for a bail hearing.

Defence lawyer Mike Taylor appeared in Halifax provincial court Monday on behalf of Sub-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle.

Taylor asked that Delisle’s bail hearing be moved ahead to March 28 from April 13.

Delisle, 40, of Bedford, faces two counts of violating the Security of Information Act and one Criminal Code count of breach of trust by a public officer.

He was arrested Jan. 13 and is being held at the Central Nova Scotia Correctional Facility in Dartmouth.

Delisle was not present for Monday’s proceeding, which was handled by Judge Barbara Beach in less than 30 seconds.

Outside court, Taylor said his client is "eager" to have a bail hearing and get out of jail ....

Halifax Chronicle-Herald, 13 Mar 12

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