Topic: New Canada-Croatia military partnership

[zz000ter]

I demonise them for the senseless and brutal killing of inocent civillians.

How many civilians have Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan?

How many civilians has the US Army killed all over the world?
I think back to the video, from Iraq, where a helicopter gunship shoots unarmed civilians and even a child in a van - and the helicopter pilot and the guy giving orders appear to be "having fun" shooting up the place.

For such a "civilized" country - Canadian grunts are not very civilized.

Where is the perspective?

I wonder how many of the "big talkers" here are still active military
It would be quite sad to think you still are

[CDN Aviator]

Ah, i see what you are going to be like.

Goodbye.

[Jammer]

No carrot and stick here mate. Nice try though

[George Wallace]

But what more can be expected from redneck grunts that have no education
and can't find a real job in the real world

I am saddened and disgusted that people like you "defend" our nation

Some of us highly educated 'grunts' are saddened that we have the honour of defending the Rights and lives of people like you, but do so as our commitment to our nation not you.

I REMIND YOU ALL OF 1991 - OPERATION DELIVERANCE - AIRBORNE REGIMENT - SOMALIA
If the Canadian military is so professional - why was the Airborne Regiment DISBANDED?

Why was the CAR disbanded?  It was disbanded as a 'knee jerk' reaction of a weak Liberal Government under a weak Prime Minister who could never make a decision and hoped that if he ignored a problem it would go away.  Instead of focusing on disciplining and charging the few 'rotten apples', Chretien punished the whole regiment and CF. 


As for teaching us history, I think you still have much to learn yourself.

[zz000ter]

Why was the CAR disbanded?  It was disbanded as a 'knee jerk' reaction of a weak Liberal Government under a weak Prime Minister who could never make a decision and hoped that if he ignored a problem it would go away.  Instead of focusing on disciplining and charging the few 'rotten apples', Chretien punished the whole regiment and CF. 

Wow - the racist rednecks here go on to characterize and demonize an entire nation and the present day military of Croatia (the vast majority of who were not involved in the war of independence) for the actions of a few rotten apples - YET you say the CAR was disbanded due to a knee-jerk reaction to some rotten apples.

Where is the logic?
Or is the racist hatred clouding your judgment?

By the way - CAR was disbanded due to longstanding systematic problems.
Problems which should not ever occur in a "professional" military

[Jammer]

Leave it alone George...it isn't worth the Kb...we've seen this type before...baiting and nonsensical rants about nothing. It is hung up on racism and other matters of which it dosn't have a clue about.

[George Wallace]

Wow - the racist rednecks here go on to characterize and demonize an entire nation and the present day military of Croatia (the vast majority of who were not involved in the war of independence) for the actions of a few rotten apples - YET you say the CAR was disbanded due to a knee-jerk reaction to some rotten apples.

Where is the logic?
Or is the racist hatred clouding your judgment?

By the way - CAR was disbanded due to longstanding systematic problems.
Problems which should not ever occur in a "professional" military

So I am a racist redneck......As a Mod on this site, I now suggest you reread the Army.ca Conduct Guidelines that you agreed to when you registered a few minutes ago to this site.

I have no idea what you are learning in your school in the NCR, but obviously history and current events are not one of your strong suits.  You appear to have very biased anti-establishment and strong anti-military views which will not hold you in good standing on this site.  I may suggest you find another site to preach your gospel in.

[Jammer]

It's too cool to track IPs....just sayin'

[Mike Bobbitt]

By the way - CAR was disbanded due to longstanding systematic problems.

Let's assume that's true, if for no other reason than there are many threads here already covering this topic, so we don't need to veer into that here. If that is the case, along with this comment:

Problems which should not ever occur in a "professional" military

Then the CF - a professional military - did the right thing by your own words. You can't have it both ways; the CF can not be brimming with uneducated rednecks and have done the right thing under the trying circumstances of Somalia.

I'm not sure what other ghosts and deflections you're going to try to bring into your argument about the Croats, but please keep this discussion on topic. If you have other side conversations you are burning to fight about, seek out one of the existing threads.


Cheers
Mike

[Macey]

From reading his profile.. it looks like a punk that never seen combat. Nice try bud.

Regards,
TN

Op Athena

[zz000ter]

It's too cool to track IPs....just sayin'

BRAVO!  "IP Address Hunter"
Is that some sort of "threat"?
Will you hunt me down and "carry on the conversation"?
You gonna pull a "Colonel Williams" on me?

As I said, I am disturbed and disappointed with the mindset here.

If you are still active military then you are doing a poor job representing Canada.

I have captured this thread as a PDF and it will be sent to the Minister of Defence and to the Croatian Ambassador.

[zz000ter]

From reading his profile.. it looks like a punk that never seen combat. Nice try bud.

So you went to a far away land - had superior firepower
Killed some locals and then came home to play video games

You are a tough guy - yeah

Did you ever live in oppression?
Did you have your parents killed by a communist regime?
Did you strike back at the first chance you had to free your people from oppression
 - even if it meant that the vast majority of people that took up arms had no training
AND had meager weapons and ammunition supplies.

You make me laugh - your machismo and bravado

Afghanistan - the "New Generation War"
Go out in big armour plated vehicles or fly around in helicopters
When you get into the shiiit you call for US helicopter gunships to wipe out the village for you

Then you go back to your protected camp, play ball hockey and drink your Timmies

Huuuurrrraaaaahhhhhhhh !

[Jammer]

Well you are disappointing and quite possibly disturbed, but then again I'm not qualified to provide a clinical diagnosis. I do love the affinity you have with using quotations though...much like someone who needs to use the cute hand gestures to emphasize a point.
Blather on...we're all waiting...

[Jammer]

Andrew Mitrovica....this might be our man...

[dangerboy]

I have captured this thread as a PDF and it will be sent to the Minister of Defence and to the Croatian Ambassador.

Make sure you highlight the part at the bottem of the page where it says "Unofficial site, not associated with DND."

[George Wallace]

Just a reminder for the membership:


There is an old saying:

"Arguing with an ________________, is like wrestling with a pig; you both get dirty, but the pig loves it."

[GAP]

So you went to a far away land - had superior firepower
Killed some locals and then came home to play video games

Huuuurrrraaaaahhhhhhhh !

Alright, who opened the gates on the recruiting threads? ........toldchu they couldn't be trusted, but no, you let them loose on society..........now to collect them all before they muddy up all the threads.....

[zz000ter]

How many of you are active military?

Your comments here do reflect directly on the CF.

How many of you go to "work" with the attitudes you communicate here?

The Croatian soldiers who are training in Canada, your NATO allies, will go back home with a rather poor impression of the Canadian Forces.

Tell me this - how many of the soldiers you are dealing with today were part of the Croatian War of Independence and the so called atrocities you speak of?

The answer is BARELY NONE

 - yet you today judge a new generation of soldiers, by the sins of their fathers.

Have any of you dealt with any of the new generation soldiers?
Have you met them on training in Borden?
Have you worked with them in Afghanistan?

From what I hear, the Croat soldiers are getting good reviews in Afghanistan.

I know that the soldier's mind is a simple one -
 - but I hope that you can understand what I am saying.



Canadian "Professionalism"?

JTF2 command 'encouraged' war crimes, soldier alleges
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/01/18/military-jtf2-probe.html

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

How many of you PPCLI types wanted to go to Croatia in the hopes of "getting your first kill"?
We have heard the stories.

Andrew Mitrovica....this might be our man...

So now I am being hunted and harassed?
How cool is that?
Professional!

[zz000ter]

Canadian "Professionalism"?

JTF2 command 'encouraged' war crimes, soldier alleges
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/01/18/military-jtf2-probe.html

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

How many of you PPCLI types wanted to go to Croatia in the hopes of "getting your first kill"?
We have heard the stories.

[Journeyman]

Onlinebetting.ca already has him listed at 20:1 as 'banned by 1600'   

     

[Jammer]

Answer to your questions...Yes on all accounts.
The overall impression I got was that they should have finished the job that was started in the 90s...(yes Virginia even the new guys). Racism...pemiates the stench of the "Croatian Army".

Cool,  that I was able to peg you though.

[jollyjacktar]

Onlinebetting.ca already has him listed at 20:1 as 'banned by 1600'   

     

Can't come soon enough, bloody troll.   

[Mike Bobbitt]

Sorry for the interruption folks, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Scott]

They're so see through these days. Tsk, tsk. What happened to the trolls of old that actually had some substance to them?

*le sigh*

[Macey]

Thanks Mr Bobbit. BZ to you and your staff.