Topic: highland regiment in the reg forces?

[-Hutch-]

i know there is no highland regiment in the reg force, but i was wondering if there was any highland regiments attached to the reg force.  right now i am a cadet and i plan on joining the reg forces this year. i would really like to be in a highland regiment though. from what i see there is none in the reg force.

if you have any info that could help me out that would be great.

thank you

[George Wallace]

There are NO Highland Regiments "attached" to the Regular Force.  No such animal.  You will have to join the Reserves if that is your goal.  The only Highland 'organizations' still in the Reg Force are the bands of the RCR (Pipes) and 2 CMBG (Pipes).  All Highland Regiments are Reserves.

[TCBF]

I was fifteen years old in the summer of 1970. i walked in the back door of our camp (that's "cottage" to you Southern Ontario types) near Thunder Bay, and saw my step father quietly watching the little B&W TV.  "What's on?" I asked.

"They're disbanding the Black Watch" he said.

We have more Scottish/Highland Regiments than Scotland does.  We even have an Irish Regiment.  We even had a Regiment with proud WW1/WW2 traditions that was NOT Scottish (the 52nd Bn CEF/LSR) become Scottish in 1949 or so (the LSSR).

So, how long before we form  Punjabi, Hindi or Sri Lankan Regiments?  Or was this idea limited to the original founding races (French/English/Scot/Irish)?

Is it time to re-asses?  If Regiments could "become Scottish" to aide recruiting, could they now reverse to aide recruiting?  Personally, I feel a Regiment's traditions should lie with the form it took to win the battle honours on it's Guidon/Colours, but what happens when we re-role?

Should the proud traditions of the 301st Bn CEF/Fort Francis Foreskin Fusiliers be maitained by the 1FFFF (reduced to nil strength) and we stand up the 2nd NBCD Regt (2FFFF) in it's place?  That would still retain the mobilization capacity and traditions/history, as well as the link to the community.

Do we need a "Mobilization" thread?

Tom

[MCG]

Do we need a "Mobilization" thread?

I think we have a few of those.

[Michael Dorosh]

So, how long before we form  Punjabi, Hindi or Sri Lankan Regiments?  Or was this idea limited to the original founding races (French/English/Scot/Irish)?


Tom

This was discussed here in detail; a search will yield you some good discussions from last year.

And point of order, Canada has had TWO Irish regiments; the Irish Fusiliers of Canada, and the Irish Regiment of Canada; the Fusiliers no longer exist, obviously.  The Irish Regiment is called the 2nd Battalion - so some day, they might have a 1st battalion....

[tomahawk6]

Perhaps with the addition of a new brigade the Black Watch [Royal Highland Reg of Canada] may be brought back onto the active list ?

[Kat Stevens]

I'd prefer to see a Regiment of Guards stood up. Personal preference, of course...

CHIMO,  Kat

[tomahawk6]

If a new brigade is stood up I would think there would be 3 new battalions brought onto the active list. So maybe there will be both.
But based on current practice it might be one regiment with 3 battalions.

[Kat Stevens]

Well, then, a full on guards brigade would be just peachy... cheaper uniforms than highlanders, too.

CHIMO,  Kat

[the 48th regulator]

I'd prefer to see a Regiment of Guards stood up. Personal preference, of course...

[/color]

Well, then, a full on guards brigade would be just peachy... cheaper uniforms than highlanders, too.

[/color]

Kiltless heathen...

No Chimo for you!

dileas

tess

[condor888000]

If I had my choice, I would really love to see the Irish regiment moved to the Regs, that's not gonna happen, but an Irishman can wish.....

[TCBF]

"Perhaps with the addition of a new brigade the Black Watch [Royal Highland Reg of Canada] may be brought back onto the active list ?"

There will be NO new Bde.  That was made clear in November.  The 5000 - if and when we hire them - will fill in the blank files of the formations we already have.

Reason? We need Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen, not office workers.

Besides:  We now have 3 Bdes.  Gone are:

4CMBG - The Suicide Brigade - was in Lahr/Baden, and we gave up that infrastructure to the host nation.

3 Bde:  Gagetown/Aldershot.  CTC Took over the base when the CAS moved from Camp Borden in 1970.

We don't have enough money to spend 2 Billion CanD on a base for units we can't afford to hire, train, and equip.  Let's just fill the units we have, thanks.


Besides, there is no way a Regular unit would be stood up that would be allowed such an ostentatious display of non-Canadian (Pre-new flag) historical origin.  Remember why we got a new uniform?  Pearson thought everyone else on the planet thought we were funny sounding Brits in a better set of Battledress. Nasser turning down the "Queen's Own Rifles of Canada" because he was mad at the Brits didn't help either.

Tom

[DSB]

I'd love to see a Sikh regiment, I know the numbers would be there.   However i think distinctions based on religion, race, ethnic background can be divisive and are totally not PC.   Current regiments maintain a historical tradition, (Canadian), but i can't see government bringing in new regiments on those lines.

Wishful thinking on all our parts.

DSB

[Michael Dorosh]

I'd prefer to see a Regiment of Guards stood up. Personal preference, of course...

CHIMO,   Kat

They would be senior in precedence in any event.

[Old Sweat]

The Canadian Guards were distinctive for another reason beside their unforms. The Chief of the Generall Staff at the time decided to create a new regiment rather than mobilize either the GGFG or the CGG. Thus, through no fault of its own, the regiment bore no battle honours on its colours. This was more often than not remarked on by members of the other five active infantry regiments.

There was an advantage to having six active infantry regiments (seven when the Canadian Ariborne Regiment was formed) in that one regiment could not gain too much power. The four brigades contained battalions from at least two regiments (three in Germany), thus allowing cross-pollenation of ideas and attitudes, or at least that was my impression as a gunner.

We gunners used to argue no end in favour of our own affiliated battalions in our mess, but that is another story.

[MCG]

Well, then, a full on guards brigade would be just peachy... cheaper uniforms than highlanders, too.

Why not a Canadian Highland Guards Regiment?  Then everyone gets a piece of the pie.

[Kat Stevens]

Royal Canadian Scotts Grenadier Guards?  Eeep, there's a mouthful....

Kat

[TCBF]

I think we should all go back to numbered battalions.  Sam Hughes, he da man

[the 48th regulator]

hmm numbered regiments,

Interesting idea, I like it.

dileas

tess

[Yeoman]

lets just form our own ghurka's
Greg

[-Hutch-]

i just think we should re-place one of our present reg force regiments with a Scottish regiment. we have enough in the reserves. so in that way for example we would have the Scots, french and English in the regs.

[Jungle]

No, we need proportional representation. So we need a new Battalion, let's say we call it "the 1st Batt, the Royal Canadian Ethnic Regiment". It could contain a European Coy, an Asian Coy and an African Coy. In the European Coy, we could have a Western European Pl, a Mediterrean Pl, and an Eastern European Pl... In the Asian Coy, a south-west Asia Pl, a south-east Asia Pl and an entire Chinese Pl. In the African Coy, we could include the Middle-East... But with this set-up, there is no room for Commonwealth countries, or scandinavians... geese, maybe we should stand a new Brigade after all...

[Danjanou]

No, we need proportional representation. So we need a new Battalion, let's say we call it "the 1st Batt, the Royal Canadian Ethnic Regiment". It could contain a European Coy, an Asian Coy and an African Coy. In the European Coy, we could have a Western European Pl, a Mediterrean Pl, and an Eastern European Pl... In the Asian Coy, a south-west Asia Pl, a south-east Asia Pl and an entire Chinese Pl. In the African Coy, we could include the Middle-East... But with this set-up, there is no room for Commonwealth countries, or scandinavians... geese, maybe we should stand a new Brigade after all...

Jungle will each platoon have it's own distinctive ethnic dress items?

Poor RSM of that Bn will be having kittens.

[Infanteer]

I vote "1st Regiment".....

[Jungle]

Guys, it's just a proposal... of course we need to listen to every group represented in the unit/ formation. Then we need to 1) discuss, 2) argue, 3) compromise, 4) go home, 5) come back... repeat steps 1 to 5 as many times as necessary... by the time we agree, the result will look nothing like the original idea, and will be 20 years late. THAT is the Canadian way !!!