Author Topic: How Do Liberal MPs Feel About Dion Attacking Them? (Read 7131 times)

RangerRay · « **Reply #25 on:** September 17, 2007, 20:40:34 »

Quote from: MCG on September 16, 2007, 20:47:31

So, Dion's position is that the Official Opposition is to blindly oppose everything from the government regardless of merit?

It would appear so. What an idjit.

wildman0101 · « **Reply #26 on:** September 17, 2007, 21:29:51 »

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IN HOC SIGNO · « **Reply #27 on:** September 18, 2007, 05:32:48 »

I think the voters of Quebec sent M. Dion a pretty loud message last night.......NDP victory in a safe Liberal riding, Tory win in Roberval and the Bloc won the other one. The Liberals now have their lowest seat count in the province of Que since confederation....do you think that is lost on the Liberal brain trust. M. Dion is toast and it looks good on him. We won't have to worry about him visiting Afghanistan and bothering our troops for whom he has little or no respect. He'll be lucky if the party fund a trip to the next convention.

geo · « **Reply #28 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:34:42 »

IHS, You have to consider that Mr Mulclair is a provincial politician who is/was very popular as an MLA. The bunfight & his resignation on a matter of principal (environment) were popular issues. His election in Outremont is probably more a case of his popularity over all other candidates than anything else. That having been said, Mr Dion is extremely unpopular for his continuous Flip-Flops. The Liberal party is rudderless and Mr Dion should do himself (and everyone else) a favour.... RESIGN & open up the debate on finding a new & better leader & establish a strong platform upon which the party and it's leader can stand behind.

GAP · « **Reply #29 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:40:36 »

Everybody clamoring for Dion to resign and let Ignatieff and/or Rae win, seems to forget two things

1. There is a very real likelyhood of being opposition leader for a minimum of 4-5 years

2. The B-Team that ran in the last leadership race is BROKE AND IN DEBT.

geo · « **Reply #30 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:46:30 »

Quote from: GAP on September 18, 2007, 10:40:36

Everybody clamoring for Dion to resign and let Ignatieff and/or Rae win, seems to forget two things

1. There is a very real likelyhood of being opposition leader for a minimum of 4-5 years

2. The B-Team that ran in the last leadership race is BROKE AND IN DEBT.

The Conservatives were in the same boat & still manager to keep their's afloat - till Mr Harper came around

GAP · « **Reply #31 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:54:38 »

Yeah, but with the change in donation rules, the Liberals do not have the grassroots base the Conservatives have.

In the past they (liberals) depended mainly on large corporate donations, and now, because of the rules and lack of interest the $$ are not coming in.

geo · « **Reply #32 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:59:47 »

GAP, I would contend that the Liberals do (or could) have a wide enough grassroots base. But with the flip-flops and irrational behavior displayed by it's fearless leader.... the purse strings have been pulled tight.

E.R. Campbell · « **Reply #33 on:** September 18, 2007, 11:02:42 »

Now, for use next month, would be a great time to lard the Throne Speech with items which will split the Liberals - specifically to remain in Afghanistan in a (modified - more/closer coop with ANA) combat role and greater decentralization/less federal intrusion into provincial matters.

The Liberals are broke and adrift. The BQ fears a general election. Harper can propose several popular items and be, relatively assured of getting them past parliament. The only effective opposition is Danny Williams and Jack Layton: Tweedledum and Tweedledumber.

geo · « **Reply #34 on:** September 18, 2007, 11:12:03 »

Ed, "Fraid so"

Think that Mr Harper was counting on this when he decided to delay the fall session of the house.

With McCay at Defence, this is the time to give our Afghanistan mission a "new look" and present it to the house.
other than the NDP, I don't see a vote of non confidence to a mission that is axed on supporting the forming of the ANA instead of fighting the TB while the ANA gets its act together.

GAP · « **Reply #35 on:** September 18, 2007, 11:29:19 »

Guys, this is all predicated on the basic fact that, no matter what the MSM, politicians and others with agenda's spout, the ANA and the ANP will NOT be able to handle the security by themselves.....we are probably talking years here.

Thus whatever is envisioned is simply a veneer for what we will continue to do.....provide security. Without that, nothing else happens.

E.R. Campbell · « **Reply #36 on:** September 18, 2007, 12:06:49 »

I doubt that any (many?) parliamentarians, including Stephen Harper, care much (if at all) about the success or failure of the Afghan mission. They all want to use the mission and the soldiers to secure their own domestic, petty, partisan political victories.

I suspect that IF Harper uses the Afghan mission for his own domestic, partisan purposes - to embarrass the Liberals an BQ by making them vote for an extension of the combat force (as I hope he does) - it will be easy enough for the bureaucrats (civil and military) to manage the mission as they see fit.

We (they, actually: the guys and gals in uniform, up to and including Rick Hillier) are props on the political stage.

Flip · « **Reply #37 on:** September 18, 2007, 13:06:51 »

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I think the voters of Quebec sent M. Dion a pretty loud message last night.......NDP victory in a safe Liberal riding, Tory win in Roberval and the Bloc won the other one. The Liberals now have their lowest seat count in the province of Que since confederation....

For my money - Dion's exactly the right guy for his job.

Note: - Before you hit that "demote" button That was sarcasm.

Actually ER - I respectfully disagree. _ I believe Harper and many MPs care about the Afghan mission.
I also believe that those MPs see rebuilding the military as a valuable undertaking.

That said - I have to acknowledge that I've never been victimized like you people in the military
by a sitting government.

IN HOC SIGNO · « **Reply #38 on:** September 18, 2007, 15:36:12 »

Quote from: geo on September 18, 2007, 10:34:42

IHS, You have to consider that Mr Mulclair is a provincial politician who is/was very popular as an MLA. The bunfight & his resignation on a matter of principal (environment) were popular issues. His election in Outremont is probably more a case of his popularity over all other candidates than anything else. That having been said, Mr Dion is extremely unpopular for his continuous Flip-Flops. The Liberal party is rudderless and Mr Dion should do himself (and everyone else) a favour.... RESIGN & open up the debate on finding a new & better leader & establish a strong platform upon which the party and it's leader can stand behind.

I agree that several factors aligned to make this defeat possible but there was a time when it didn't matter who you ran in this riding as long as you tied a red ribbon around his neck and told them he was a loyal follower of the Liberal party he was a shoe in. It was a stroke of genuis by the NDP to get Mulclair on side.

Blindspot · « **Reply #39 on:** September 18, 2007, 23:26:24 »

Quote from: IN HOC SIGNO on September 18, 2007, 15:36:12

It was a stroke of genuis by the NDP ...

Holy crap! How often do you hear that said? Next, Layton will be excommunicated by the Pope!

JBG · « **Reply #40 on:** September 07, 2008, 23:32:12 »

Quote from: kratz on September 15, 2007, 21:24:46

I would attempt to defend his slip of words, translating French thoughts into English words, in response during an unguarded moment to the suprise question.

The fact is, he is trying to convince Canadians that he should be the next Prime Minister. If such a minor gaff can be attributed to a language mix up during an interview, imaging this party leader under pressure if he was the head of the government.

I would agree that the PM of an English-speaking country should speak English.

Loachman · « **Reply #41 on:** September 07, 2008, 23:58:03 »

Bilingual country.

JBG · « **Reply #42 on:** September 08, 2008, 00:02:47 »

Quote from: Loachman on September 07, 2008, 23:58:03

Bilingual country.

Bilingual government federally and in NB. The people are split regionally in what they speak.

Loachman · « **Reply #43 on:** September 08, 2008, 00:20:17 »

It is still a bilingual country, rather than an English-speaking one as you originally said.

I'm not sure why you dredged up a year-old thread either.

JBG · « **Reply #44 on:** December 04, 2011, 12:32:48 »

Quote from: Loachman on September 08, 2008, 00:20:17

It is still a bilingual country, rather than an English-speaking one as you originally said.

I'm not sure why you dredged up a year-old thread either.

Why not dredge it up? It's a subject worthy of debate.

Most people in Canada speak English. People should be free to speak whatever language they want and within the bounds of common sense be served in whatever language they and the service provider wants. As for government, there should be some definition of what numbers warrant multi-lingual service. Surely the numbers of Anglophones in Montreal warrants that far more than the number of Francophones in Russell Township, Ontario.

recceguy · « **Reply #45 on:** December 04, 2011, 12:39:37 »

Holy necropost Batman.

You're responding to a comment from 2008.

Journeyman · « **Reply #46 on:** December 04, 2011, 12:51:54 »

Quote from: JBG on December 04, 2011, 12:32:48

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I'm not sure why you dredged up a year-old thread either.
Why not dredge it up? It's a subject worthy of debate.

Apparently JBG shows up every three years just to troll.

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