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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2011, 12:03:22 »
CFAT marks are not given out......
There is no "pass mark"; or to be more accurate, there is no "pass mark" published.  It is an Aptitude Test for which your mark will dictate which Trade options may be open to you.  The higher your marks, the more options you will have of Trades to choose.  The lower your marks, the fewer Trades will be open to you.

Just to clarify, I appreciate that 'pass marks' aren't published. When I took the eCFAT for Veh Tech I asked my recruiter what I needed to score and he told me (35/60 at the time). I was just interested what was needed for Inf Off and whether Dlew knew or not?  ;)
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2011, 09:25:19 »
Just to clarify, I appreciate that 'pass marks' aren't published. When I took the eCFAT for Veh Tech I asked my recruiter what I needed to score and he told me (35/60 at the time). I was just interested what was needed for Inf Off and whether Dlew knew or not?  ;)
How this information can help you or anybody?
Iit is clearly- you apply for trades and after that you must do eCFAT.
If you passed - you will be informed by recruiter. It's all. What you need else?To compare?
I just passed test a few weeks ago. After the test  we received information who passed test .Recruiter told us that we can continue our recruiting process according our trades of choice.
I don't care about scores.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2011, 11:42:50 »
How this information can help you or anybody?

It's quite possible that I'll want to CFR one day. If and when that day comes I'll have to sit the CFAT again. It's worth knowing whether I have a chance of meeting the required score to be an Officer.

Iit is clearly- you apply for trades and after that you must do eCFAT.
If you passed - you will be informed by recruiter. It's all. What you need else?To compare?

Thanks for the reminder, but I hadn't forgotten.

I just passed test a few weeks ago. After the test  we received information who passed test .Recruiter told us that we can continue our recruiting process according our trades of choice.

Good for you.

I don't care about scores.

So it seems.

I find that time spent on reconnaissance is seldom wasted.
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2011, 14:07:32 »
I find that time spent on reconnaissance is seldom wasted.

So true.......Unless the recce keeps on coming up with the same facts.  Then it is a waste of time and effort.  If the answer from the CFRC is that their Recruiting Policy states CFAT scores are not released, then to constantly ask for them is damn foolishness. 
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2011, 14:32:16 »
It's quite possible that I'll want to CFR one day. If and when that day comes I'll have to sit the CFAT again. It's worth knowing whether I have a chance of meeting the required score to be an Officer.
Nobody can tell you about required score to be an Officer.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2011, 15:25:04 »
So true.......Unless the recce keeps on coming up with the same facts.  Then it is a waste of time and effort.  If the answer from the CFRC is that their Recruiting Policy states CFAT scores are not released, then to constantly ask for them is damn foolishness.

I take your point George. I think 'constantly asking for them' is explanatory 'mission creep' to say the least, but I'll call it a day as it's clear that I'm the only recruit in this forum who knows what his pass mark was.

Nobody can tell you about required score to be an Officer.

That's quite obviously not true.
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2011, 16:55:29 »
That's quite obviously not true.
If it would be so easy you already had got this information.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2011, 17:04:19 »
Do you have to get the last word in?

Drop it.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2011, 16:12:43 »
Just call the recruiting centre and they will tell you the minimum officer score. I called today and was told as soon as I asked the question. I won't post it here for fear of being flamed  :) I just tried a quick google on the internet. Try that and you will be linked to military research studies that discuss the general officer cut off.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2011, 16:32:01 »
Just call the recruiting centre and they will tell you the minimum officer score.

You say that like knowing the minimum score is actualy useful information.

It is not.
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2011, 16:50:21 »
I never said it was useful. Question asked was can you know the minimum score and yes you can.  I always hesitate to post on this forum because the minute you do your attacked.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2011, 08:22:43 »
Grow up. You were not attacked. You were not flamed. Someone disagreed with you is all. Spare us the drama.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2011, 14:24:27 »
Scott: Please see my PM

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2011, 14:44:48 »
Saw that PM. You were NOT attacked here. No matter how much crying you do it's simply not an attack. CDN Aviator disagreed with you and pointed out why - that IS NOT an attack.

You said:
Just call the recruiting centre and they will tell you the minimum officer score. I called today and was told as soon as I asked the question. I won't post it here for fear of being flamed  :) I just tried a quick google on the internet. Try that and you will be linked to military research studies that discuss the general officer cut off.

and the response was:
You say that like knowing the minimum score is actualy useful information.

It is not.

This response from a serving member of the CF. Someone who has been through the recruiting system and who ha also helped others through the system. The simple answer is that the CFAT scores do not matter to you - write the bloody test to the best of your ability and move along. I said it in another thread: once you're beyond the precious CFAT it does not matter - focus on being fit, focus on being a good buddy, focus on getting your tasks done, focus on the learning. All of this time and energy put into test scores is really moot. I believe that this is what CDN Aviator was trying to sum up. Trying to sum it up to be helpful to others.

And you think it was an attack?

Listen, just because someone disagrees with you and points out why does not constitute an attack. Get over yourself.

Yeah, I got your PM. You don't have to post in the thread that you sent one so that others will see that you did not back down ::)
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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2011, 16:22:52 »
One thing that many people seem to be forgetting here is that the key word in CFAT is Aptitude. This a natural talent that the applicants possess. The recruiters want to find what your communication, troubleshooting and spatial perception skills are to find a trade that will best suit your natural abilities.

It is very possible that some trades would require different levels for the scores in the different categories. For example, you may require high communication and troubleshooting marks but not spatial perception for one trade and lower communication but higher spatial perception for another. Although an overall score may be used for certain aspects it really should only be seen as a means that the recruiters have to determine if you will be able to succeed in the trade.

As many have said, once you have passed the recruiting stage your results are not required unless you happen to want to remuster at some later point. The test is not meant to intimidate you but rather to help you find the career that will best suit your natural talents that are determined by your results.

Personally, I believe that if you want to do better on the test work on the core areas by: reading and writing more for the communications portion, doing more math for the troubleshooting portion and going through puzzles and spatial games for the spatial perception portion. Every person will have different strengths and weaknesses and the test is used as an initial gauge to determine where yours are.

By learning how to pass the test, that is all you will do and may find that the aptitudes that you require for your trade are not innate and will make thriving in the trade more difficult for you. When I prepared for the test, I ran through the sample questions to have a feel for what to expect, rested well and completed the test.

If you do not get the trade that you desired it is only to help you succeed and not to punish you. The score to shoot for is your best through your natural abilities in the areas tested to be able to succeed in the trade that best suits you.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2011, 18:48:21 »
Just practice, practice, practice and be prepared for the test.  Then you will ace it and get the dream job you are hoping for LOL ;D

I did the practice test:  http://cdn.forces.ca/_PDF2010/preparing_for_aptitude_test_en.pdf

I Got 5 wrong in the math section so now i go here:  http://www.khanacademy.org/

and every day I practice grade 10 math fractions, long division,  percentages etc.

I also paid  for more practice of the CFAT here:  http://www.publicserviceprep.com/public/full_pkg_canadianforces.aspx

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2011, 09:56:38 »
One thing that many people seem to be forgetting here is that the key word in CFAT is Aptitude. This a natural talent that the applicants possess. The recruiters want to find what your communication, troubleshooting and spatial perception skills are to find a trade that will best suit your natural abilities.

THIS.

The test is to check your APTITUDE levels.

"aptitude ( ) n. An inherent ability, as for learning; a talent:"

The CFAT is decidedly NOT a knowledge test.  Knowledge tests are to see what you know.

Aptitude tests are used to see what you are capable of doing.

Example.  You, as a machinist might know how to safely operate a CNC multi-axis mill.  However, you may have no sweet clue how to program the G-code that runs it, defining the tool path, speed of advance, cutting depth, etc.

However, you may have a highly developed understanding of how the machinery....you'd probably know how to oil, repair and maintain the tool. 

The guy who writes the G-code may never have even seen the Mill that you're working on.  He probably doesn't know the day-to day maintenance requirements for it.

Extend that to your own aptitudes....that programmer probably takes his car in every 3 months to get the oil-change done....you know how to change the oil on your mill, so by extension, a car isn't such a scarily different piece of equipment, you probably do it on your own.  You have mechanical aptitude. 

Sort of make sense?

That programmer probably knows HOW the oil is changed on his car....but can he do it?  Can he line up the oil filter properly? 

The CFAT measures for APTITUDE, not knowledge. 

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2011, 17:50:40 »
Just my 2c.  Does it make any difference at all what the cut off scores are?  You either do well enough or you don't.  It's not like knowing the required scores will make you any smarter.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2011, 12:25:52 »
Just my 2c.  Does it make any difference at all what the cut off scores are?  You either do well enough or you don't.  It's not like knowing the required scores will make you any smarter.

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« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2011, 12:44:58 »
Just my 2c.  Does it make any difference at all what the cut off scores are?  You either do well enough or you don't.  It's not like knowing the required scores will make you any smarter.

Please stop attacking people with your logic.

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2011, 17:34:46 »
Would someone need to score high on the CFAT for intel op?. Im going to do my CFAT in a couple of days and was just wondering if anyone knew.

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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2011, 17:56:17 »
Would someone need to score high on the CFAT for intel op?. Im going to do my CFAT in a couple of days and was just wondering if anyone knew.

Sorry, they're only recruiting those who know the difference between Int and Intel.   >:D

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Re: CFAT scores
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2011, 17:58:06 »
Would someone need to score high on the CFAT for intel op?. Im going to do my CFAT in a couple of days and was just wondering if anyone knew.

From another (now locked) thread you started

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i applied in feb did my CFAT  a week later and was told that i passed and one of the ones i qualified for was intel op

Please figure out which story is true before posting again. People around here don't appreciate being deceived.

Finally, as Occam said, Int not Intel