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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #200 on: November 07, 2009, 13:59:48 »
I find that keeping an eye on the ratio of milpoints to posts is a good way to know if I'm "talkin' when I shoulda been listenin'" (like now  :D)

All the same, I guess losing 300 milpoints is still better than gaining a black eye...

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On second reading of this, I thought I should qualify my remarks above.
While I did serve -way back in the days of FN rifles (manly weapons) and 64 pattern webbing (really sucked)- I am in no way shape or form, a member of the "been there done that" crowd. Perhaps that ratio of milpoints to posts might translate into 'what I don't know/want to know' versus 'what I have to contribute'. 
That is why I at least try to keep my post count down (rum is not helpful in this endeavour) and why I read here constantly. This site is a real treasure trove of information.

Those who actually have been there and done that, naturally should be posting more.   
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #201 on: November 07, 2009, 16:02:39 »
I find that keeping an eye on the ratio of milpoints to posts is a good way to know if I'm "talkin' when I shoulda been listenin'" (like now  :D)

I'm not so sure it's really indicative of anything.

You for example have a little more milpoints than me.   You-9610.  Myself 9120.   You have 76 posts and myself 3310.   
Those 9600 points in 76 posts could be contributed to extremely positive feedback from users, however (though I'm not saying you don't deserve it), in about 8 to10 pages of your recorded milpoints history I think I saw to actual feedback cookies from users.
I just get confused easily.

I'm of the mind that two separate systems might actually win us the noble peace prize or something.

Milpoints to record a members contribution to the forum in terms of time online & post quantity and a reputation system. 
Something as simple as a thumbs up or thumbs down akin to an ebay trader rating. I see a post of yours I like, thumbs up. I don't like it, thumbs down.
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #202 on: November 07, 2009, 16:07:04 »
We did actually try a version of the system that was based solely on votes for and against by other users.  Unfortunately, a disgruntled bad of misfits decided to coordinate their efforts to abuse the system and it quickly became a mockery of its own intent.  Sadly, any such system depending solely upon the honest participation of the multitude is doomed to fail at the hands of the dishonest few.

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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #203 on: November 07, 2009, 16:26:27 »
FD, folks like you are the reason why I added the supplement to my post.
You've been on ops. I haven't.
I intended my post to be a (hopefully) subtle hint to the up-and-coming crowd that it's better to read much and post little.
Personally, I agree with your post -and you're right: I've gained points only twice from member feedback. Compared to an honest-to-God veteran, it's unfair that I should have more points for reading than someone like you should have for sharing your experiences.
But, like Mike Bobbitt and (just now) Michael O'Leary said: it's what we have to work with. 
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #204 on: November 07, 2009, 17:20:53 »
FD, folks like you are the reason why I added the supplement to my post.
You've been on ops. I haven't.
I intended my post to be a (hopefully) subtle hint to the up-and-coming crowd that it's better to read much and post little.
Personally, I agree with your post -and you're right: I've gained points only twice from member feedback. Compared to an honest-to-God veteran, it's unfair that I should have more points for reading than someone like you should have for sharing your experiences.

I don't think being on ops is a factor brother. More often than not I +rep people for being sarcastic or putting a crap disturber in their place. I just think the feedback from users would mean more if it wasn't mixed.  I don't think it should be a reflection of someones experience but rather what they contribute to the community. Maybe I'm inking about it too much.

Michael, I remember that.  Some of us senior members got really upset because some people went around neg-repping us. We said "Hey I don't give a damn about my rep!" but I remember people were still pretty pissed.

IMO it could have been handled easily. If I for example started finding all your posts and neg reping you just to be a prick that's trolling and bannable.
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2009, 14:23:26 »
Has there been a change in how the history of posts assessed are recorded or is there a glitch in the system?

I checked my MilPoints history today and noticed that there is no record of recent ratings I made of other posts.  It's been a while since I looked at my MilPoints history, but previously assessments made had been recorded and 10 milpoints deducted for each rating.  I checked the history of one of those whom I rated yesterday and it is there http://army.ca/milpoints/?user=37224 - so I wasn't hallucinating that I had rated someone.
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2009, 16:14:23 »
There was a change a while back... MilPoints are no longer deducted when you assess someone else. It just didn't make sense to levy a fine for having an opinion.
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2009, 19:20:49 »
Thanks.  I wouldn't have thought more about it except it still states on the MilPoints FAQ
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. . . More importantly, users can spend 10 MilPoints to "assess" another user based on their posts, rewarding or docking them up to  . . .
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2009, 19:51:50 »
Thanks... fixed!
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #209 on: March 28, 2010, 18:29:06 »
I had occasion to use the award/deduct function today and, out of curiosity, I looked at my own MilPoints. I was impressed (I guess that's the right word) at how many MilPoints I've 'earned' just because I leave my browser open for most of the day with Army.ca open in  one of the tabs.

I understand that awarding points for being here was designed to reward those who read before they post, and that's a good thing. But I wonder if 20 points for an hour of 'being here' is really fair.

I would not be at all unhappy if the 'reward' for reading and posting was the same: 10 MilPoints.

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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #210 on: March 28, 2010, 21:57:18 »
To keep getting those Milpoints you have had to "refresh" something, either changing threads, etc., or simply refreshing every 30 minutes.
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #211 on: March 29, 2010, 14:50:52 »
Thanks Bruce. And Edward, I understand where you're coming from. 10 points to post, 20 to lurk might be sending the wrong message.

My motivation was that 10 points for a standard post can be augmented (or negated) by others rating that post, so it's possible to earn much more if your post is valued by the community. If it's not... well, 10 may be an accurate representation of it's worth. ;)
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #212 on: December 08, 2011, 08:49:07 »
Are the daily top 5 still receiving bonus milpoints each day?  Just curious.  And Mike, is it possible to add a section to the MP statistic page that says who the top earners were for the previous day, something that automatically updates each day like the current ones do?
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #213 on: April 09, 2012, 18:53:53 »
I like this MilPoints system!

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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #214 on: April 09, 2012, 18:54:52 »
I like this MilPoints system!

Here's 300, just for enthusiasm !
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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #215 on: April 09, 2012, 19:01:54 »
Here's 300, just for enthusiasm !

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Re: Introducing MilPoints- Merged
« Reply #216 on: May 05, 2012, 10:59:33 »
I like this system now. Instead of using a post, or PM for thanking someone or to agree with. I can just use the milpoints, and fire the message from there to them.