Topic: The Legality of Self Defence In Canada

[kstart]

kstart,

Will you please quit talking down to people here and stop treating everyone as a moron? This is a forum of mostly military people. You're preaching to the choir. While you've had some traumatic experiences, there are many here that have seen, and experienced, bad stuff too. Lots of it.

Please give your long winded prose a rest. I'm tired of fielding complaints.

Milnet.ca Staff

I know a 100% I’m not the only one to have suffered something ‘traumatic”.  I also know that chances are everyone here has either directly experienced something traumatic or knows someone close to them who has. Even regardless of combat military training, e.g.  http://www.kwantlen.ca/pscm/wenlido/wenstats.htm (Stats-Can quotes),

I’m in conflict with some of the ‘conventional wisdom” because some of it is way off the mark and it can serve to endanger more people’s lives, because of biases which can impede, derail and override both intuitive awareness and natural self-protection fight response (regardless of if it‘s bolstered by combat-defense training):

http://portal.citysoup.ca/NR/exeres/C4568C80-EBC9-4737-8390-E19AC0457712.htm
Location; “Appearance of Attacker”; confusion due to expectations re: “Roles”, abuse by authority, etc.


Military training alone may not be sufficient enough for ALL assault scenarios, e.g. domestic assaults or given, e.g.:
http://www.ptsd.va.gov/public/pages/military-sexual-trauma-general.asp

It ain't no choir (but it happens everywhere and anywhere).

Point taken about the length of posts.  I found better links which back up my views. 

There were other posts re: concern of military members for non-military-trained loved ones, e.g. the military member who was concerned for his GF's safety riding the TTC late at night and some of those issues might not be covered by standard martial-arts type courses.  Found a link that expresses some of my concerns related to that (if I found that earlier, I wouldn't have felt the need to personally disclose to try to warn.  It's bad out there, I've know too many people who've gone through it.  60% of assaults, weapon was involved-- I know people who've survived much worse then I did here in Canada):

http://www.kwantlen.ca/pscm/wenlido/ReducetheRisk.pdf
Safety tips to limit/manage risk in some situations: prevention, awareness, intuition-- can help re: law abiding
Scenarios re: ON THE MOVE: When Walking; While Running; On Transit; Around Your Vehicle; Taxi; Riding with Others; When You Travel away from Home; Work, etc.   

From now on, I'll try to keep to smaller posts and follow advice just given by a recent poster to another re: one assault scenario at a time.
Not to derail home invasion issue.

[recceguy]

Baby Jesus on a cracker 

[Michael O'Leary]

Point taken about the length of posts.  I found better links which back up my views. 

kstart,

Take a break. If anyone wants to engage you they will identify specific points from your posts that they want to discuss and then you can beat those specific issues to death with them.

To put your posts in perspective, your 109 posts, to date, including quoted passages, total almost 75000 words. I know this because I copied and pasted them from your post record to confirm the count. (74,667 to be precise, including title and date lines.)

YOU HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN A NOVEL HERE.  Stop. If you have any fans they can contact you directly for the rest of the trilogy.

Alternatively, start a blog.

Milnet.ca Staff

[Angry56789]

And you want to be a cop?

I'm glad they have a great big battery of tests and interviews to root out the sort of stuff I have seen you posting.

Cheers

How does my belief in that sometimes it appears that criminals have more rights make me "not the right fit" to be a police officer? Yes I had a lapse in judgement on my very first post on here, I apologized openly for it....from there people can chose to judge me how they wish. My actions were not justified by any means, I wanted to set things straight as best as I can. Concerning the person who I attacked verbally on here; I tried my best to get my apology to him, he of course has the right to be mad at me or however he feels toward me. I said what I said, so now I get to accept whatever is directed back to me. I can't argue that because I

Feel free to talk to me once you experience being hogtied on your living room floor, watching a man with a pistol at the back of your fathers head, while his partner is pillaging your home....threatening to return to deal vengeance to the female members of the household should we call 911 after. I thank (whoever) that our neighbour at that time called the police because he heard them (we lived in a duplex) and both perps were captured. 6 years of counselling and I think I am not too bad off from that ordeal that I would not wish on anyone. I am sorry my belief toward our justice system offends you.

You know nothing at all about me aside from what you can gather on here. You have no idea where I have been, what I have done, or what skills I have. You have no idea at all about my education, personal experiences, or anything else I can offer. I do not particularly care about your opinion or advice because I did not ask for it.

.....no need to "cheers" me, we are not friends or acquaintances.

[recceguy]

How does my belief in that sometimes it appears that criminals have more rights make me "not the right fit" to be a police officer? Yes I had a lapse in judgement on my very first post on here, I apologized openly for it....from there people can chose to judge me how they wish. My actions were not justified by any means, I wanted to set things straight as best as I can. Concerning the person who I attacked verbally on here; I tried my best to get my apology to him, he of course has the right to be mad at me or however he feels toward me. I said what I said, so now I get to accept whatever is directed back to me. I can't argue that because I

Feel free to talk to me once you experience being hogtied on your living room floor, watching a man with a pistol at the back of your fathers head, while his partner is pillaging your home....threatening to return to deal vengeance to the female members of the household should we call 911 after. I thank (whoever) that our neighbour at that time called the police because he heard them (we lived in a duplex) and both perps were captured. 6 years of counselling and I think I am not too bad off from that ordeal that I would not wish on anyone. I am sorry my belief toward our justice system offends you.

You know nothing at all about me aside from what you can gather on here. You have no idea where I have been, what I have done, or what skills I have. You have no idea at all about my education, personal experiences, or anything else I can offer. I do not particularly care about your opinion or advice because I did not ask for it.

.....no need to "cheers" me, we are not friends or acquaintances.

First impressions and all that. You made your bed, you gotta sleep in it. It's no one's fault here if they have a low impression of you. No one but your own, that is.

BTW, snarking back doesn't further your cause.

Just sayin'.

[klink1983]

How does my belief in that sometimes it appears that criminals have more rights make me "not the right fit" to be a police officer? Yes I had a lapse in judgement on my very first post on here, I apologized openly for it....from there people can chose to judge me how they wish. My actions were not justified by any means, I wanted to set things straight as best as I can. Concerning the person who I attacked verbally on here; I tried my best to get my apology to him, he of course has the right to be mad at me or however he feels toward me. I said what I said, so now I get to accept whatever is directed back to me. I can't argue that because I

Feel free to talk to me once you experience being hogtied on your living room floor, watching a man with a pistol at the back of your fathers head, while his partner is pillaging your home....threatening to return to deal vengeance to the female members of the household should we call 911 after. I thank (whoever) that our neighbour at that time called the police because he heard them (we lived in a duplex) and both perps were captured. 6 years of counselling and I think I am not too bad off from that ordeal that I would not wish on anyone. I am sorry my belief toward our justice system offends you.

You know nothing at all about me aside from what you can gather on here. You have no idea where I have been, what I have done, or what skills I have. You have no idea at all about my education, personal experiences, or anything else I can offer. I do not particularly care about your opinion or advice because I did not ask for it.

.....no need to "cheers" me, we are not friends or acquaintances.

Give the guy some slack, he stepped on his d***, and was at least man enough to say sorry. No need to judge further. Everyone in here has tasted their own boot polish before, I am no exception to this.

Angry, Having your reasons for hating the CF is one thing, verbally assaulting someone who actually didnt do anything to you is another. Its not wise to stand on the middle of a gas soaked rope bridge with a cigarette...know what I mean. Feel free to PM me, I'd love to give you the opportunity to bend my ear. I am disgruntled to sorts, and I know first hand it is hard sometimes to put your beliefs aside to do your job. I hate the CF for my own reasons and I want out, but I don't attack people who didn't do me wrong. I do not know Mr Seggie either, I bet if you approached him different, he would probably be more interested in offering you advice.

[Scott]

Bla, bla, bla...

Nah, not worth it. Good luck to you. I hope you can somehow pull your head out of your *** before too long...I have my doubts, though.

I won't even bother addressing any of the rest of that load of crap.

Cheers